Comments on: SOAP Problems http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2004/09/28/soap-problems/ Daniel Lemire's blog is about life in academia, research in Computer Science, wondering how we can reconcile fast databases and algorithms with the informal and asemantic nature of the world around us. It is broadcasted from Montreal (Canada). Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:58:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Daniel Lemire http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2004/09/28/soap-problems/#comment-185 Daniel Lemire Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:44:54 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2004/09/28/soap-problems/#comment-185 However, teaching SOAP is a very respectable thing to do. However, teaching SOAP is a very respectable thing to do.

]]> By: Daniel Lemire http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2004/09/28/soap-problems/#comment-184 Daniel Lemire Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:23:31 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2004/09/28/soap-problems/#comment-184 Well, CORBA was, by all accounts, a failure. So saying that SOAP is like CORBA isn't a very good point. But the fact that CORBA was a failure doesn't imply SOAP is a failure... however, I say and I repeat that I don't get it. It seems excessively verbose (or maybe the SOAP code I saw was bad code) and hard to debug. Before I buy into something, I need a concrete example and I haven't seen a nice example of a SOAP application where something simpler wouldn't do. That's the big thing: use complex ideas if you want, but people might choose the easy route... so you have to make sure that the complexity is worth it and that you can prove to people that it is worth it. Well, CORBA was, by all accounts, a failure. So saying that SOAP is like CORBA isn’t a very good point.

But the fact that CORBA was a failure doesn’t imply SOAP is a failure… however, I say and I repeat that I don’t get it. It seems excessively verbose (or maybe the SOAP code I saw was bad code) and hard to debug. Before I buy into something, I need a concrete example and I haven’t seen a nice example of a SOAP application where something simpler wouldn’t do.

That’s the big thing: use complex ideas if you want, but people might choose the easy route… so you have to make sure that the complexity is worth it and that you can prove to people that it is worth it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2004/09/28/soap-problems/#comment-180 Anonymous Wed, 29 Sep 2004 03:54:24 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2004/09/28/soap-problems/#comment-180 I do not care these comments. SOAP is the standard of W3C, and OASIS (included in OASIS ebXML standard). SOAP is an e-business standard for services. You need to have ways to encode the objects in xml. If people say this to SOAP, they dislike CORBA too. They can claim that all these standards are failure. But people just use it. Only messages are not enough for distributed applications. I do not care these comments. SOAP is the standard of W3C, and OASIS (included in OASIS ebXML standard). SOAP is an e-business standard for services. You need to have ways to encode the objects in xml. If people say this to SOAP, they dislike CORBA too. They can claim that all these standards are failure. But people just use it. Only messages are not enough for distributed applications.

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