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	<title>Comments on: Good research: invent new problems or explain mysteries</title>
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	<description>Daniel Lemire's blog is about life in academia, research in Computer Science, wondering how we can reconcile fast databases and algorithms with the informal and asemantic nature of the world around us. It is broadcasted from Montreal (Canada).</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a connection between your ideas and Kuhn's concepts of "normal science" and "revolutionary science". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions#Coherence

I think Peter is right, these kinds of work correspond to different personality types. From an impact standpoint, the mistake you don't want to make is to do refinement work when the field is on the verge of a revolution. But I suppose that can be hard to guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a connection between your ideas and Kuhn&#8217;s concepts of &#8220;normal science&#8221; and &#8220;revolutionary science&#8221;. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions#Coherence" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Structure_of_Scientific_Revolutions#Coherence</a></p>
<p>I think Peter is right, these kinds of work correspond to different personality types. From an impact standpoint, the mistake you don&#8217;t want to make is to do refinement work when the field is on the verge of a revolution. But I suppose that can be hard to guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevembuangga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevembuangga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL
The early bird get the worm but the second mouse get the cheese...
It's true in industry too (even more so...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL<br />
The early bird get the worm but the second mouse get the cheese&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s true in industry too (even more so&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;make up a new problem and be the first to propose a solution&lt;/i&gt;

I am rather attracted to this type of research, as well.  However, having gone through the process a few time on a few (minor, but solid) research topics, I find that, because most of my initial work/effort is spent inventing a new problem, my initial proposed solutions are decent, but not great.  When the new topic area finally catches on, it's because some (2) has looked at my (3), and easily made an order-of-magnitude improvement on it.

Thus, even though that (3) work was the first for a given area, the (2) work gets most of the perceptual credit.

So I still believe that being able to open up new (3) areas is a very important research skill.  But aside from personal satisfaction, isn't it rather dangerous to be a "first mover"?  Isn't history replete with examples of the "second mover" getting most of the credit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>make up a new problem and be the first to propose a solution</i></p>
<p>I am rather attracted to this type of research, as well.  However, having gone through the process a few time on a few (minor, but solid) research topics, I find that, because most of my initial work/effort is spent inventing a new problem, my initial proposed solutions are decent, but not great.  When the new topic area finally catches on, it&#8217;s because some (2) has looked at my (3), and easily made an order-of-magnitude improvement on it.</p>
<p>Thus, even though that (3) work was the first for a given area, the (2) work gets most of the perceptual credit.</p>
<p>So I still believe that being able to open up new (3) areas is a very important research skill.  But aside from personal satisfaction, isn&#8217;t it rather dangerous to be a &#8220;first mover&#8221;?  Isn&#8217;t history replete with examples of the &#8220;second mover&#8221; getting most of the credit?</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Daume III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Daume III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at first when i read this i thought: yes, exactly!  we need more (1) and (3) papers and fewer (2).  but now i'm not so sure.  the issue for me is that a lot of times i feel like the process of going through the "sludge" of (2) is what eventually leads to (1)s and (3)s.  in fact, (1)s would almost be impossible without lots of people (maybe not me!) working on many many minor (2)s.  i feel it's also important for (3)s, too, because in order to do something new, you need to know what is possible already... at lot of times we have something that looks like a (2) only to find out a few years later that it actually has many qualities of a (3) that were simply lurking initially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at first when i read this i thought: yes, exactly!  we need more (1) and (3) papers and fewer (2).  but now i&#8217;m not so sure.  the issue for me is that a lot of times i feel like the process of going through the &#8220;sludge&#8221; of (2) is what eventually leads to (1)s and (3)s.  in fact, (1)s would almost be impossible without lots of people (maybe not me!) working on many many minor (2)s.  i feel it&#8217;s also important for (3)s, too, because in order to do something new, you need to know what is possible already&#8230; at lot of times we have something that looks like a (2) only to find out a few years later that it actually has many qualities of a (3) that were simply lurking initially.</p>
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		<title>By: HA</title>
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		<dc:creator>HA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming up with good research problem which can sustain for ten years (in research community) is as difficult as solving a ten year old open problem. It's not *easy*.

Good research problems indeed means good research. Coming up with a new system is rather better and you get to solve the system in stages. But then you don't remain a theory guy.

It's good to define a very big goal at the very beginning of your career and start solving all small problems towards that goal. In between you'll find some *very good* problems. Either solve it on your own or collaborate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming up with good research problem which can sustain for ten years (in research community) is as difficult as solving a ten year old open problem. It&#8217;s not *easy*.</p>
<p>Good research problems indeed means good research. Coming up with a new system is rather better and you get to solve the system in stages. But then you don&#8217;t remain a theory guy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to define a very big goal at the very beginning of your career and start solving all small problems towards that goal. In between you&#8217;ll find some *very good* problems. Either solve it on your own or collaborate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making up a new problem and being the first to propose a solution has two advantages: you're not trying to crack a nut that everyone else has been trying to crack for a long time, plus you have the biggest potential upside for novel contribution. The downside, however, is that you have a far bigger onus to prove that the new problem you've made up is worthwhile, since you don't have the validation of others. I suspect it's generally harder to publish results about a problem no one else has heard of. A cynical reviewer--or simply a rationally skeptical one--might suspect you of having made up a problem because you are unable to solve any of the ones already on the table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making up a new problem and being the first to propose a solution has two advantages: you&#8217;re not trying to crack a nut that everyone else has been trying to crack for a long time, plus you have the biggest potential upside for novel contribution. The downside, however, is that you have a far bigger onus to prove that the new problem you&#8217;ve made up is worthwhile, since you don&#8217;t have the validation of others. I suspect it&#8217;s generally harder to publish results about a problem no one else has heard of. A cynical reviewer&#8211;or simply a rationally skeptical one&#8211;might suspect you of having made up a problem because you are unable to solve any of the ones already on the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Turney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Turney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;make up a new problem and be the first to propose a solution&lt;/i&gt;

You're giving away my secrets! Seriously, the world needs both inventors and refiners. Which you choose is probably more a personality thing than a strategic decision making thing.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re giving away my secrets! Seriously, the world needs both inventors and refiners. Which you choose is probably more a personality thing than a strategic decision making thing.</p>
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