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	<title>Comments on: Determinants of faculty research productivity</title>
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		<title>By: Shane Culpepper</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/07/17/determinants-of-faculty-research-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-51260</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Culpepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this survey, they specifically picked “quality journals”. So they did not count “mediocre papers”.

Point taken. However, much like the distribution of good researchers, there is not a one-to-one correspondence between good papers and good journals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this survey, they specifically picked “quality journals”. So they did not count “mediocre papers”.</p>
<p>Point taken. However, much like the distribution of good researchers, there is not a one-to-one correspondence between good papers and good journals!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lemire</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/07/17/determinants-of-faculty-research-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-51259</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lemire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shane

&lt;i&gt; In their study, the exception seemed to be researchers of middle academic origin that moved up the ladder. They were significantly more productive and had the highest mean citation counts. This is not surprising is it?&lt;/i&gt;

They published more articles in top journals than researchers from more prestigious schools who were also hired in the same positions.

In effect, based on this study alone, there is no justification for a hiring committee who favors graduates from less schools.

&lt;i&gt; Producing fewer high impact research papers should be more important than turning out many mediocre papers (but that might not always be recognized at tenure time). &lt;/i&gt;

In this survey, they specifically picked &quot;quality journals&quot;. So they did not count &quot;mediocre papers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shane</p>
<p><i> In their study, the exception seemed to be researchers of middle academic origin that moved up the ladder. They were significantly more productive and had the highest mean citation counts. This is not surprising is it?</i></p>
<p>They published more articles in top journals than researchers from more prestigious schools who were also hired in the same positions.</p>
<p>In effect, based on this study alone, there is no justification for a hiring committee who favors graduates from less schools.</p>
<p><i> Producing fewer high impact research papers should be more important than turning out many mediocre papers (but that might not always be recognized at tenure time). </i></p>
<p>In this survey, they specifically picked &#8220;quality journals&#8221;. So they did not count &#8220;mediocre papers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Culpepper</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/07/17/determinants-of-faculty-research-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-51258</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Culpepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what conclusions can be drawn from Long et al. One comment that stood out to me was: &quot;While graduates of the more prestigious IS programs did produce more highly cited research, they did not produce a larger average number of publications.&quot;

In their study, the exception seemed to be researchers of middle academic origin that moved up the ladder. They were significantly more productive and had the highest mean citation counts. This is not surprising is it? 

Producing fewer high impact research papers should be more important than turning out many mediocre papers (but that might not always be recognized at tenure time). Measuring impact is a different problem entirely, but simply counting publications and averaging citation counts across them does not seem to be sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what conclusions can be drawn from Long et al. One comment that stood out to me was: &#8220;While graduates of the more prestigious IS programs did produce more highly cited research, they did not produce a larger average number of publications.&#8221;</p>
<p>In their study, the exception seemed to be researchers of middle academic origin that moved up the ladder. They were significantly more productive and had the highest mean citation counts. This is not surprising is it? </p>
<p>Producing fewer high impact research papers should be more important than turning out many mediocre papers (but that might not always be recognized at tenure time). Measuring impact is a different problem entirely, but simply counting publications and averaging citation counts across them does not seem to be sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lemire</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/07/17/determinants-of-faculty-research-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-51255</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lemire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Panos Right. I agree. But the purpose of my blog post (and others) is to stress that we should always be watchful of our assumptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Panos Right. I agree. But the purpose of my blog post (and others) is to stress that we should always be watchful of our assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Panos Ipeirotis</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/07/17/determinants-of-faculty-research-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-51254</link>
		<dc:creator>Panos Ipeirotis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the paper: &quot;While graduates of the more prestigious IS programs did produce more highly cited research, they did not produce a larger average number of publications.&quot;

Well, this is actually exactly what we are trying to teach our own graduates (NYU is one of the &quot;high prestige&quot; IS departments in the study). 

I actually consider this a good thing: &quot;Write less but get more people to read what you write.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the paper: &#8220;While graduates of the more prestigious IS programs did produce more highly cited research, they did not produce a larger average number of publications.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, this is actually exactly what we are trying to teach our own graduates (NYU is one of the &#8220;high prestige&#8221; IS departments in the study). </p>
<p>I actually consider this a good thing: &#8220;Write less but get more people to read what you write.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Lemire</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/07/17/determinants-of-faculty-research-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-51251</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Lemire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see my earlier blog post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2006/08/09/big-schools-are-not-longer-giving-researchers-an-edge/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big schools are no longer giving researchers an edge?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see my earlier blog post: <a href="http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/archives/2006/08/09/big-schools-are-not-longer-giving-researchers-an-edge/" rel="nofollow">Big schools are no longer giving researchers an edge?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ragib Hasan</title>
		<link>http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/07/17/determinants-of-faculty-research-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-51247</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragib Hasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what about the work places of the most productive scholars? Did they look into that as well? I&#039;m curious to know if the most productive scholars were also distributed all over the universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what about the work places of the most productive scholars? Did they look into that as well? I&#8217;m curious to know if the most productive scholars were also distributed all over the universities.</p>
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