Comments on: Attributes of good research http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/ Computer Scientist and Open Scholar: Databases, Information Retrieval, Business Intelligence. Thu, 24 May 2012 04:42:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Francois Rivest http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51455 Francois Rivest Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:49:21 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51455 @Daniel: Right, and I think this leads to bad habits (such as solitary work). Although it may seems quite solitary in computer science... I think there are a lot of interdisciplinary work that would benifit from more team work. Moreover, science is NOT just about writing a PhD thesis. (You are still doing research, aren't you?) Finally, if you write a thesis with publications, you will certainly have co-authors, possibly including some that are not your supervisor. @Jeremy: I agree with you. @Daniel: Right, and I think this leads to bad habits (such as solitary work). Although it may seems quite solitary in computer science… I think there are a lot of interdisciplinary work that would benifit from more team work. Moreover, science is NOT just about writing a PhD thesis. (You are still doing research, aren’t you?) Finally, if you write a thesis with publications, you will certainly have co-authors, possibly including some that are not your supervisor.
@Jeremy: I agree with you.

]]> By: jeremy http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51444 jeremy Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:01:46 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51444 Solitarily social? Solitarily social?

]]> By: Daniel Lemire http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51443 Daniel Lemire Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:45:39 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51443 @jeremy I wrote that <i>research is fundamentally social</i><i>.</i> @jeremy I wrote that research is fundamentally social.

]]> By: jeremy http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51442 jeremy Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:43:12 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51442 @Daniel: But a PhD Thesis is supposed to be solitary. I find that since then, my best work comes when I'm actively banging my head against the objections of my colleagues, and they're actively firing back their own ideas, until we collectively come up with something to test. Then we test it. Then we move on to another round of Hegelian dialectic. It seems to work. @Daniel: But a PhD Thesis is supposed to be solitary. I find that since then, my best work comes when I’m actively banging my head against the objections of my colleagues, and they’re actively firing back their own ideas, until we collectively come up with something to test. Then we test it. Then we move on to another round of Hegelian dialectic.

It seems to work.

]]> By: Daniel Lemire http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51441 Daniel Lemire Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:19:24 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51441 @Turney I'm well aware that "doing research" is just an instance of "design/excelling", at least the way I do it. @Meagher Thanks for the link. I did not know about this essay. It is an excellent one. Paul screws them up sometimes, but this was one of his best ones. @Rivest Well. I don't think you can write a Ph.D. thesis collaboratively. It was never meant to work that way. @Turney I’m well aware that “doing research” is just an instance of “design/excelling”, at least the way I do it.

@Meagher Thanks for the link. I did not know about this essay. It is an excellent one. Paul screws them up sometimes, but this was one of his best ones.

@Rivest Well. I don’t think you can write a Ph.D. thesis collaboratively. It was never meant to work that way.

]]> By: Francois Rivest http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51440 Francois Rivest Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:46:14 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51440 "Research is a solitary task." I am not sure this is how it should work! “Research is a solitary task.”
I am not sure this is how it should work!

]]> By: Evan Meagher http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51439 Evan Meagher Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:12:11 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51439 Good post. I've been reading a lot of Graham's essays lately and a common theme is the comparison of the design/startup mentality to that of academia. I'd be interested to read your thoughts on this article in particular: http://www.paulgraham.com/desres.html Good post. I’ve been reading a lot of Graham’s essays lately and a common theme is the comparison of the design/startup mentality to that of academia. I’d be interested to read your thoughts on this article in particular: http://www.paulgraham.com/desres.html

]]> By: Peter Turney http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51438 Peter Turney Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:44:07 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51438 Hmm. Substitute "art" for "research" and it still works. Substitute "athletic achievement" and it still works. What's the most abstract term that subsumes these special cases? "Excelling"? Hmm. Substitute “art” for “research” and it still works. Substitute “athletic achievement” and it still works. What’s the most abstract term that subsumes these special cases? “Excelling”?

]]> By: Geoff Wozniak http://lemire.me/blog/archives/2009/08/31/attributes-of-the-good-research/comment-page-1/#comment-51436 Geoff Wozniak Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:52:20 +0000 http://www.daniel-lemire.com/blog/?p=2165#comment-51436 Maybe on the first point, the idea is that in order for it to succeed, it must fail. Maybe on the first point, the idea is that in order for it to succeed, it must fail.

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